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Post by Baidol on Aug 14, 2011 18:42:57 GMT -8
Killed a neutral, all other deaths are villagers.
Still don't know what Wandering Hero's win condition is.
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Post by feckless on Aug 14, 2011 18:54:08 GMT -8
Yeah. Also, still don't know what sorts of awful things the dead villagers are doing in the after life. We haven't seen a lot of vengeance yet.
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Post by virgilleadsyou on Aug 14, 2011 19:26:25 GMT -8
so, I made two posts and voted. Was there something else I was supposed to do? edit, nevermind I'm glad i didn't forget something.
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Post by slym on Aug 14, 2011 19:59:14 GMT -8
I will continue to guard Savant, if he eats the vote tonight I can change it.
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Post by feckless on Aug 14, 2011 22:30:59 GMT -8
My speculation, which is normally wrong, is as follows.
If I'm not mistaken, they still have a Seer. Let us assume, perhaps erroneously, that Jason Todd therefore Seer'ed Savant, particularly because he was one of two replacements. Metagaming, replacements have a slightly higher chance of being mafia. Additionally, if there are two replacements, usually one is mafia and one is a villager. Don't know why, but it often works that way.
By Seering Savant, he would either gain a useful ally, or discover an enemy. Further, if Savant came up green, he could safely assume the other person was probably mafia and murder them instead.
I think, as a result, the wagon on Savant is possibly a ploy to see who jumps on early and who tries to start rival bandwagon to derail it. I would not be surprised to see Jason Todd announce the result of the Seering late in the day to ensure Savant's death and also collect a ton of vote records in the process.
This is way out there paranoia, I know. But I wanted to put it out there just in case I wasn't completely crazy.
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Post by roman on Aug 14, 2011 22:48:49 GMT -8
My speculation, which is normally wrong, is as follows. If I'm not mistaken, they still have a Seer. Let us assume, perhaps erroneously, that Jason Todd therefore Seer'ed Savant, particularly because he was one of two replacements. Metagaming, replacements have a slightly higher chance of being mafia. Additionally, if there are two replacements, usually one is mafia and one is a villager. Don't know why, but it often works that way. By Seering Savant, he would either gain a useful ally, or discover an enemy. Further, if Savant came up green, he could safely assume the other person was probably mafia and murder them instead. I think, as a result, the wagon on Savant is possibly a ploy to see who jumps on early and who tries to start rival bandwagon to derail it. I would not be surprised to see Jason Todd announce the result of the Seering late in the day to ensure Savant's death and also collect a ton of vote records in the process. This is way out there paranoia, I know. But I wanted to put it out there just in case I wasn't completely crazy. I don't like the bolded part. Its weird, it wasn't long ago that the thought was the other way around based on the thinking that villagers are more likely to inactive out since they have less to do and can get bored of the game more easily. I don't think replacements are either more or less likely than anyone else to be special/mafia.
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Post by locus on Aug 15, 2011 6:20:31 GMT -8
We probably haven't seen many post-death actions because there haven't been too many opportunities to use them (or they don't manifest themselves obviously). We have more knowledge than most people about who is or is not spirit marked. If a villager died and did not know how the spirit marking mechanic worked, they would not have many post-death targets to choose from.
As the game goes along I think we'll see more vengeance deaths and post restrictions.
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Post by cythraul on Aug 15, 2011 7:07:05 GMT -8
If we need to move suspicion anywhere, someone could point out that the roleblocking didn't start til day 2 and The Anonymous was inactive til day 2. I'd point it out myself, but y'know, I'm the roleblock and don't wanna implicate myself in any accusations.
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Post by slym on Aug 15, 2011 7:25:22 GMT -8
If JTodd comes out as savant being mafia later in the day, we should look towards some of the earlier voters as being in the network.
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Post by virgilleadsyou on Aug 15, 2011 8:05:33 GMT -8
Any contact from the dead yet?
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Post by virgilleadsyou on Aug 15, 2011 8:06:59 GMT -8
We should keep a lookout for the witch and cultist speaking out, or any villagers who might be possessed.
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Post by locus on Aug 15, 2011 8:14:51 GMT -8
Langly's post about ahava is something I noticed as well. There's nothing in the narration that indicates any sort of switching going on, but she seemed pretty convinced that Wandering Hero got busdriven. It's possible she knows more than she's letting on.
cythraul I think your idea is a good one regarding The Anonymous. Let's see what happens and, if necessary, one of us can point it out.
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Post by locus on Aug 15, 2011 10:29:19 GMT -8
Corvidae might also be a good choice. He's new, so he might be a special trying really hard not to die.
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Post by slym on Aug 15, 2011 10:55:45 GMT -8
Or he might just be a generic villager who thinks he really messing up when everyone who's done a lot of phallas understands that sometimes you just get killed off.
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Post by locus on Aug 15, 2011 11:23:07 GMT -8
Oh, of course. I honestly have no idea who may or may not be a special, so I'm just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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